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Author:  ErikWeaver [ Sun Jun 21, 2009 3:41 pm ]
Post subject:  Nearly "magnetic" pull on L-rods

I found this "magnetic pull" effect interesting, and I thought others may wish to comment upon similar experiences. I should note, I'm *not* speaking of a literal magnetic pull ( I was using copper L-rods ) but that is the best description of the feeling I can put words to....

Last month I was laying out a small garden and wished to avoid my propane gas line. So I decided to dowse for it's location because the utility company doesn't keep records of my line's location ( which is entirely in my backyard -- running from the LP tank to the house, a run on the order of 150- to 200-feet )

I dowsed along two lines running parallel to the house. Once only 6-feet or so away from the visible entry point at the home's rear wall, and once about 2/3 of the distance from the house toward the LP tank, along the edge of a brush line. The 6-foot distant walk did provide a good "crossing" of the L-rods, approximately where expected. I walked once in each direction and found the crossing at the same point as best I could tell ( I didn't drop a flag or anything for a 100% certain marker, but it was only a short distance with sufficient visible markers so I'm not worried about "missing" my crossing point )

The one farther away provided the interesting "magnetic pull" when crossing....

I was slowly walking, holding in my mind the image of the visible pipe connected to my house ( there is a short length exposed to the open air between where the LP line leaves the earth and enters the house ) and trying to step carefully so as to not disturb the L-rods ( I'm using a length of copper rod, set into a brass tube, so the rods swing with extreme ease )

Then I felt it! This was the first time this happened for me -- the L-rods not only crossed, it felt like there was pressure on them! This pressure "pulled" on them sufficiently hard to be totally obvious they were being pulled into a crossing pattern and downward at the same time. This is what I'm calling the "magnetic pull" -- I don't know what else to call it.

I even took a step backwards, somewhat in surprise, and stepped forward again, with the same effect. Needless to say, I consider that an unequivocal "here it is" statement from the L-rods! I walked another 20 or 30 paces with no effect. This took beyond any reasonable distance for laying that gas line, so I stopped at this point.

The result would indicate that LP gas line runs in a pretty straight line between the LP tank and the entry point at the house. As I expected. The "con" is I got what I expected. And if there was only the ( for me, up to now ) "normal" crossing I'd say that inflicts doubt to the whole affair. While not scientific by any means, given the "pull" I have no doubt that is where that LP line is located. And given contractors attempt to save money, and both crossings indicate a straight-line run, I am quite confident that is the case.

I'm curious if anyone has experienced a "magnetic pull" similar to this? Or any other remarks that seem appropriate.

( And, no, I actually believe the results, and don't wish to risk damage to my LP gas line, so I have not tried digging a hole to verify my results. Maybe someday, but I'm not inclined to do so. But I did alter the placement of the garden based upon this dowsing result. )

Author:  Auki [ Fri Aug 21, 2009 6:59 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Nearly "magnetic" pull on L-rods

Very interesting. you must have some strong motor responses. I'm learning to get pretty good myself. I might even go on a gold hunt soon. :wink:

Author:  ErikWeaver [ Sat Aug 22, 2009 2:08 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Nearly "magnetic" pull on L-rods

Thanks Auki,

But that was the first --and to date-- only response of that magnitude. Still a good sign! heheh, so "I'll take it" as they say ;)

Good to know others have felt that too. I rather suspected that, but hadn't actually seen a post about it ( or I missed them )


Author:  Paul Smith [ Mon Sep 14, 2009 1:34 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Nearly "magnetic" pull on L-rods

Hi, Erik! Nice to see a field dowser with some experience posting on this forum. I've occasionally experienced something similar to what you described (though not as powerfully as it sounds like happened to you) -- even when dowsing a map or a diagram. This makes me think that it really is, as Auki suggests, a version of the ideomotor response (as described in the DVD set). It's amazing what the subconscious can do if we just encourage it a little!

Author:  ErikWeaver [ Mon Sep 14, 2009 1:28 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Nearly "magnetic" pull on L-rods

"There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio,
Than are dreamt of in your philosophy." -- Hamlet.

Hi Paul,

Thanks for your reply. I guess I need to review your DVD as I don't recall your reference. I've been meaning to do so, but I've been running in so many directions at the same time my dowsing study has fallen behind. Still, as I observed in the original post, I'm quite willing to rely upon dowsing when a practical matter suggests it is the best tool for the job.

There are so many unusual things in this world! That we are able to make a connection with the Universe and discern movement in a dowsing rod seems like a small enough matter to believe!

....not to mention, it works! heheh.... ;)

Warmest wishes,
Erik Weaver

Author:  Locator [ Mon Sep 14, 2009 8:36 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Nearly "magnetic" pull on L-rods

Some people think the human body has polarity, typically the left side is positive and the right side is negative. Like rubbing a balloon on your hair and bringing it near to attract some styrofoam chips (they literally fly through the air), static charge can have quite a forcefield. The whole thing about dowsing is getting in resonance with the target. Most people do not believe thought energy is real.

Author:  ErikWeaver [ Mon Sep 14, 2009 10:55 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Nearly "magnetic" pull on L-rods

Hi Locator,

I don't know that I believe the human body is so simple as that, but it serves as a good word picture to get the general idea across.

I think back to India and their practice of yoga and chakra meditations, as well as the Chinese idea of balancing Chi via acupuncture/pressure as examples of similar lines of thought dating back many thousands of years.

I recently heard of a medical test in which a person's nervous system was "lit up" for a scan similar to an X-ray (it wasn't an x-ray, however) and this mapped very well to the traditional acupuncture lines of energy.

It has taken us in the West a very long time to catch up to this kind of thinking. Better late than never I guess! :P

Best regards,
Erik Weaver

Author:  Locator [ Tue Sep 15, 2009 1:30 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Nearly "magnetic" pull on L-rods

Every cell in the human body is a small wet cell battery. I don't mean to say the energy is enough to pull the rods together (although I have heard it) but even a slight force might be sensed by the dowser. I'm walking on rice paper here as this discussion is probably out of range with the forum rules.

Author:  Locator [ Thu Sep 17, 2009 9:41 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Nearly "magnetic" pull on L-rods

Have you ever seen a gold leaf electroscope? Volta built a pig bristle volt meter. He has a piece of hog's hair standing up in what looked like an empty light bulb (evacuuated). A guy named Christopher Hills built something like it with a human hair hanging down (instead of up like Volta). He said he could point his finger at it from across the room. He could even look at it and get it to move by thought energy alone.

Author:  ErikWeaver [ Fri Sep 18, 2009 4:39 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Nearly "magnetic" pull on L-rods

I've heard of "cat whiskers" in terms of early radio crystal tuning, but not specifically to what you are referring. Sounds interesting.

Author:  TJW [ Tue Apr 12, 2011 12:00 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Nearly "magnetic" pull on L-rods

I am very new to the course, only starting, however.....
My experience strongly indicates that there is something like magnetic or electrical forces at play, in some cases at least. With no training whatsoever, for many years I have been able to dowse for pipes and drain lines, as far as I know with 100% success. I saw this first on a gas line repair crew, where they had to know the exact location of the pipe to dig for it with backhoes. An older crew member would use handheld welding rods bent in the L shape to locate the pipe in the middle of a farmer's field. I tried it on water and gas lines near our home, and other's homes, and found it worked very well, with bent wire coat-hangers. Friends tried it and it worked for about 50% of them as well. The coat-hangers turn very strongly (when held lightly), parallel the pipe even when it is on an angle, and return to the straight out position as you pass the pipe line. It appears to work on clay drain pipes that are around some older homes as well. Is it possible that the flowing water or electricity aligns the min-magnets in the earth so that they line up, causing the pull on the rods? Or some other physical explanation? I know that the education CD says that there is no discernable electric or magnetic field, but the pull is too strong and can be done by people with no training for me not to believe there is something there. Comments?

Author:  ErikWeaver [ Tue Apr 12, 2011 12:23 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Nearly "magnetic" pull on L-rods

Hi TJ.

It is a strange world in which we live! That such forces are not currently measureable is not the same thing as saying they do not exist.

And once one begins to think about subtle energy, intention, and the (apparent) quantum-holographic nature of our universe, it quickly gets stranger still!

"Curiouser and curiouser" as Alice is reported to have said ;)

+Erik Weaver

Author:  Mitch [ Wed Nov 16, 2011 1:06 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Nearly "magnetic" pull on L-rods

Erik, I never even consider I am getting a true dowsing reaction until I feel that 'pull" you spoke of. It is strongest with Y rods but L rods does this very well. I map dowse with a single precision bearing L rod and wait on the "lock" of the rod before I change the map orentation and triangulate from another direction. Only when I get a location will I switch to an aurameter or pendulum and start asking information questions. I find an L rod about useless for me if I am hunting depth, strike of a vein, width, guange rock, etc. That 'pull' is very important to a dowser!


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